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I found the culprit. A minor leak coming from a Muslim tweaker previous patch job. My plumber friends will be out on Monday to jack out the hole, fix the leak, then I can fill with mud, add a 4' x 4' patch of particle board, then nail down, then relay the vinyl, then baseboards. Good as new, maybe $500. Then ready for the kitchen remodeling on the 8th. F it, I should sell this money pit, and rent a one bedroom apartment.
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do you know the difference between silver solder [brazing rod] and solder?

by code, you can have soldered joints under the slab, they must be sil-floss 15%

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Thanks. I'll remind them but I'm hoping they know this already


image on the left is sil flossed, image on the right is regular solder joint
if the leak you find looks like the image on the right, you have an tort case
against the guy who fixed it before.



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image on the left is sil flossed, image on the right is regular solder joint
if the leak you find looks like the image on the right, you have an tort case
against the guy who fixed it before.



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Most plumbers in California don't braze. They don't generally do underground.

Here in idaho nobody uses copper for anything, everything used to be galvanized mixed with some brass and I think magic and luck have kept it together but anything newer is all pex. Even for city services they use poly.
 
You are right Chris. A house plumber rarely brazes except to fix an under slab leak, But commercial plumbers do. med gas, and we use a "T'' drill alot making manifolds
 
You are right Chris. A house plumber rarely brazes except to fix an under slab leak, But commercial plumbers do. med gas, and we use a "T'' drill alot making manifolds
I've never seen a plumber braze myself. Us underground guys, that's all we do.
 
Morning all. Now that I am on bare concrete, it is completely dry where I pulled the plywood. We are going to run the washer about 5 cycles, followed by 5 sprinkler cycles, trying to identify whether there is a leak or not.
 
Morning all. Now that I am on bare concrete, it is completely dry where I pulled the plywood. We are going to run the washer about 5 cycles, followed by 5 sprinkler cycles, trying to identify whether there is a leak or not.
Could your dog have been peeing on the floor? They usually pick one spot.
 
No. That is waterproof vinyl plank, and the moisture was under the plywood. I do notice a slab stress fracture directly under the wall, that leads to the exterior on one side and the drain line for the washer on the other side. Crap, it could be a dozen different things.
 
Do you have a pipe manifold in a wall close to the leak?
I have seen nails in the base board hit a pipe in the manifold. then the nail hole does not leak accept when the dryer run and causes the pipe to vibrate.
THEN. the water leaks down the sleeve that comes up out of the concrete . The water appears in the middle of the room, where it comes out of the other end of the sleeve
 
First of all. The water meter was marked and no movement AT ALL for 10 minutes, and only moved when we turned on the garden hose.
Here is a pic of the room now. The blue tape is a vapor test, and although I see a slight darkening on the right side of the test. No moisture is coming up on the test. On the wall I taped orange tape to show where my main manifold comes out of the ground. Drywall moisture meter tests zero moisture anywhere under the manifold, and usually a pressure leak would flood that roon within minutes. I just don't get it. I just text the plumber and he responded 'I don't know!"
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