Just Marn pissing and moaning

[Trucker]

Guns are bad!

Shut up, Chicago.

 

[Marn]

My dad went blind in his right eye, took him close to 3 months, but he was able to regain accuracy . I'm sure you could do it

i've always been cross dominant. My left eye was lazy as a kid and I had surgery to fix it. lately its started wandering again and the vision in it isnt as good as my right eye. almost couldnt read the drivers license eye test with my left eye sans glasses, but my right eye is perfect.

eye doctor told me since i had surgery on it its guaranteed to develop double vision. great.

Maybe i'll get it lasered back into shape eventually.

I'm fairly ambidexterous and dont have much difficulty running a gun right handed, but all my **** is set up for left hand. Weird carrying a handgun on the left but your rifle mags on the left too, ya know?

 

[Grape Ape]

My dad went blind in his right eye, took him close to 3 months, but he was able to regain accuracy . I'm sure you could do it

My great grandfather went blind in his right eye. He cut the stock on his rifle and put some hinges on it so he could hold it right handed but it was lined up to aim with his left eye. They said he was a crack shot with the modified stock, and technique.

 

[Trucker]

i've always been cross dominant. My left eye was lazy as a kid and I had surgery to fix it. lately its started wandering again and the vision in it isnt as good as my right eye. almost couldnt read the drivers license eye test with my left eye sans glasses, but my right eye is perfect.

eye doctor told me since i had surgery on it its guaranteed to develop double vision. great.

Maybe i'll get it lasered back into shape eventually.

I'm fairly ambidexterous and dont have much difficulty running a gun right handed, but all my **** is set up for left hand. Weird carrying a handgun on the left but your rifle mags on the left too, ya know?

If they can fix it I'd let them for sure.

 

[Trucker]

My great grandfather went blind in his right eye. He cut the stock on his rifle and put some hinges on it so he could hold it right handed but it was lined up to aim with his left eye. They said he was a crack shot with the modified stock, and technique.

That's awesome! People had ingenuity back in the day...now days they would file for SSI and become anti-gun.

 

[Grape Ape]

The SPS is nice. I was at our long distance range (1000+ yard) a while back, watched a SWAT shooter hit steel from 1200 with a very highly modified, and very expensive 700 SPS.

a buddy who i am not really buddies with anymore had a 700SPS, as seen in the above pics. he was consistent to 1000+ yards. Timney trigger, mcmillian stock, he eventually got an upgraded blot because the bolt face on his cracked, but even as a stock rifle 800-1000 wasnt bad.

My M1A was consistant at 1000, but not exactly accurate. I was shooting at like a 14x20 silhouette, i think my best was like 3/10 hits? it was RIGHT THERE, dancing around it, i had a total of 5 out of 30 hits, but within the last 10 rounds (lake city) i had 3 hits. . That was all using surplus 7.62x51.

To have a quality rifle that will perform you either buy one of quality. Or you buy a 700, which as tHom says, has lots of after market support, and pay extra on top of the purchase price for parts and gunsmithing to have a gun that does what a quality gun does out of the box. Spend money on the front or on the back end either way you spend it. You buy a Cooper Arms Classic and you will have a gun that will do as required and if not they will make it right. If you get a 700 and add parts and it still isn't right you sell it to a sucker and hope for better the next time you buy.

 

[Marn]

Grape, we get it, you're gay for cooper arms.

Nobody argued about them, he said a very expensive and very modified Remington 700. I stated that a $600 rifle with a $200 trigger and a $400 stock, was capable of performing quite well. I dont consider that super expensive nor highly modified.

 

[Trucker]

To have a quality rifle that will perform you either buy one of quality. Or you buy a 700, which as tHom says, has lots of after market support, and pay extra on top of the purchase price for parts and gunsmithing to have a gun that does what a quality gun does out of the box. Spend money on the front or on the back end either way you spend it. You buy a Cooper Arms Classic and you will have a gun that will do as required and if not they will make it right. If you get a 700 and add parts and it still isn't right you sell it to a sucker and hope for better the next time you buy.

Exactly right. There was a day when I could Marn up and get expensive weaponry, now I start cheap, build as I can afford too, and get there slower. Lol

We can't all have a rich, blind, wife with obvious poor decision making skills.

 

[Marn]

LOL! Marn doesn't buy expensive things much anymore. Marn just happens upon deals or waits in the wings until the right deal shows up, then he moves around a bunch of possessions to come up with the cash.

not gonna lie, I've been pretty damn lucky this past year on finding awesome deals right when I "need" them. The wedding gun, the revolver, the little sig, the ruger scout....wasnt looking for the 1897 when i found it, but i sold my coach gun for $100 more than i paid....which i think technically means I got the 1897 for $50? lol.

 

[Trucker]

Marn is now synonymous with bragging as well as whining.


I never find deals.

 

[Marn]

trust me, i never used to find deals.

Ever since moving to reno, and specifically since moving to this house, I've been stumbling into deal after deal. guns, the free wagoneer and thus the free fuel injection, free chainsaw, the free dirtbike, so on and so forth.

This crap never used to happen to me, but lately it has.

 

[SunDevilJeeper]

Just gonna kinda pop in here with a picture of my Windham MPC...

 

[Marn]

Just gonna kinda pop in here with a picture of my Windham MPC...View attachment 82 View attachment 83

Hey, there's a gun thread for that now you stupid idiot!!!!

 

[Chris]

Spend $600 on a Leupold scope. Take the extra 400 from that and add it to the $1500 for the gun then add around $4 more and get a Cooper Arms Classic model 52 in .300 win. at $2275. Check it out at http://cooperfirearms.com/classic but go in with a max of $2500 on the gun or you will fall in love with their offerings and end up with a lot of money in a gun. If that is to rich for your blood then look at a Kimber model 84L which will still use all the $1500 plus the left over from the scope at around $1900 or the Kimber Mountain Ascent. at around $1400. The mountain ascent is a superlight at 5.5 lbs. the other 2 are around 7lbs. If you want to buy one gun and never question whether it will do the job then the only option IMHO at your price range would be to save some money and go for the Cooper Arms. At it's price point you will not find a better gun.

If I were living somewhere such as CO or WY and hunting the big game every year I would snag a Cooper in a minute. Being that i am in East TN I am happy with my Remington model 721 30-06 and will be putting my money into some more pistols in the near future.

Tell me more about the 52? I can afford it bu tell me why?

 

[SunDevilJeeper]

Hey, there's a gun thread for that now you stupid idiot!!!!

Yeah but this is old school JF, **** the rules kind of.

 

[Grape Ape]

Tell me more about the 52? I can afford it but tell me why?

The company is a bunch of people from Kimber who broke off and went their own way in the late 80's early 90's. Their goal was to make a firearm that was on the level of the custom one off guns but to manufacture them. There first priority was accuracy. And they have done it. They offer a .5 MOA accuracy guarantee at 100 yards. That guarantee is for every gun they ship. There are a few custom makers out there, Clay Spencer is one, who claim .25 MOA at 100 yards but only on lower caliber ,varmint bullets, like the 22-250 and such but don't offer that on their big calibers, and his cost quite a bit more. Now don't get me wrong the big box store guns can offer the .5 MOA with work and all can come close to 1 MOA out of the box, if you get the right one built on the right day and everything was good in the factory that day. The Cooper guarantees it.

The reason for picking the model 52, it is the only one in Coopers line that comes in a .300 win mag. The 21, 22, 38, and 51 is a varmint shooter rifle with those type rounds. The 52 is a well rounded group of rounds with a few odd balls, not normally discussed when talking guns. The 54 is the weirdo rounds rarely ever discussed but known for accuracy in the old guns. The 57m are the rimfires .17 and .22 and the 58 is the big boys that you only shoot once and hope whatever you shot at dies but don't care because it can't do an more damage than the recoil just did to you. So you have the Model 52.

And like I said you can get real stupid if you go in with a gleam in your eye and a big wad of cash. The classic is a good looking Claro walnut stock, with good checkering, holding a very nice rifle with a match grade wilson barrel, for $2275. Then you step up and up and up. The western classic has an incredibly amazingly beautiful top grade possible Claro walnut stock, with all kinds of fancy checkering holding a very nice rifle with a match grade wilson octagon barrel, for only $3895 then you hit the custom shop. Add the exhibition Claro stock, custom metal work and engraving and all the goodies and you are at $10,000 dollars.

If you want a quality gun you can be sure will shoot exactly where you want it to when you want it to and the only factor is your ability then this is the gun. No need to go stupid on extras the M52 classic will give you everything you want out of a rifle in one box without extra work. It will last a lifetime if cared for and will look damn good doing it.

As for the caliber the .300 win mag ios the best for getting out there and doing the job. Compared to the 7mm, and the 30-06 with the same bullet it carries a lot more energy and shoots much flatter, dropping 10" less than the 30-06 at 500 yards, making it the choice for all around stuff and the long shots that come up.

And contrary to Marn's belief, I am not stuck on Cooper. It is just that you can't get a better rifle for less. Now you can get a better rifle for a lot more. but you can't find an equal rifle elsewhere for that money. So you get a top notch rifle at a very good price point. You can spend 10k on a better rifle but most of us would never be able to perform to the level of that rifle. You can afford the performance of a Cooper.

 

[Marn]

The company is a bunch of people from Kimber who broke off and went their own way in the late 80's early 90's. Their goal was to make a firearm that was on the level of the custom one off guns but to manufacture them. There first priority was accuracy. And they have done it. They offer a .5 MOA accuracy guarantee at 100 yards. That guarantee is for every gun they ship. There are a few custom makers out there, Clay Spencer is one, who claim .25 MOA at 100 yards but only on lower caliber ,varmint bullets, like the 22-250 and such but don't offer that on their big calibers, and his cost quite a bit more. Now don't get me wrong the big box store guns can offer the .5 MOA with work and all can come close to 1 MOA out of the box, if you get the right one built on the right day and everything was good in the factory that day. The Cooper guarantees it.

The reason for picking the model 52, it is the only one in Coopers line that comes in a .300 win mag. The 21, 22, 38, and 51 is a varmint shooter rifle with those type rounds. The 52 is a well rounded group of rounds with a few odd balls, not normally discussed when talking guns. The 54 is the weirdo rounds rarely ever discussed but known for accuracy in the old guns. The 57m are the rimfires .17 and .22 and the 58 is the big boys that you only shoot once and hope whatever you shot at dies but don't care because it can't do an more damage than the recoil just did to you. So you have the Model 52.

And like I said you can get real stupid if you go in with a gleam in your eye and a big wad of cash. The classic is a good looking Claro walnut stock, with good checkering, holding a very nice rifle with a match grade wilson barrel, for $2275. Then you step up and up and up. The western classic has an incredibly amazingly beautiful top grade possible Claro walnut stock, with all kinds of fancy checkering holding a very nice rifle with a match grade wilson octagon barrel, for only $3895 then you hit the custom shop. Add the exhibition Claro stock, custom metal work and engraving and all the goodies and you are at $10,000 dollars.

If you want a quality gun you can be sure will shoot exactly where you want it to when you want it to and the only factor is your ability then this is the gun. No need to go stupid on extras the M52 classic will give you everything you want out of a rifle in one box without extra work. It will last a lifetime if cared for and will look damn good doing it.

As for the caliber the .300 win mag ios the best for getting out there and doing the job. Compared to the 7mm, and the 30-06 with the same bullet it carries a lot more energy and shoots much flatter, dropping 10" less than the 30-06 at 500 yards, making it the choice for all around stuff and the long shots that come up.

And contrary to Marn's belief, I am not stuck on Cooper. It is just that you can't get a better rifle for less. Now you can get a better rifle for a lot more. but you can't find an equal rifle elsewhere for that money. So you get a top notch rifle at a very good price point. You can spend 10k on a better rifle but most of us would never be able to perform to the level of that rifle. You can afford the performance of a Cooper.

I'm sorry I couldn't understand any of that since you had coopers dick in your mouth! ******* fanboy....



No but seriously grape has teh good advices

 

[Marn]

except his advice is bad in one way. screw 300....get one in 505 gibbs.

 

[Trucker]

My only argument would be this. If a person is willing to spend $4,000 for a Cooper w/ a match grade barrel, why not spend the extra $500 and get a used McMillan TAC 308? It's a FAAAARRRRR superior rifle with little extra expense.

 

[Trucker]